Lifestyle

25 February 2011

Profile prejudice

Photograph: Li Kim Goh

Featured photograph: Li Kim Goh

The rise of gay dating websites and apps like Gaydar and Grindr has exposed a troubling undercurrent of what one campaign group calls ‘sexual racism’ – the tendency for some users to include statements like ‘no Asians’ or ‘blacks only’ in their profiles.  While those users might claim that such statements are fair, or even trivial, for others they represent a stinging attack on their ethnicity and dignity. So, what’s the truth: is ‘no Asians’ a way to express a harmless personal preference? Or is it actually offensive, or even harmful – and if so, how can it, and statements like it, be tackled?

Gaydar revolutionised gay sexual freedom when it took advantage of an increasingly sophisticated online scene back in the early 2000s.  Roll the calendar forward to the 2010s, and GPS-enabled smartphones make it even easier for gay guys to meet each other using apps like Grindr.  It’s never been easier to find sex, dates and relationships; some might even claim that for the gay community, still relatively marginalised and isolated as recently as a decade ago, Gaydar, Grindr and the like have made life better. Unless, that is, you’ve been written off as unattractive because of the colour of your skin.

Ramesh, a 28-year-old trainee clinical psychologist from Surrey, who is half Sri Lankan, knows how that feels. ’It’s upsetting. It’s not just that they find you unattractive, it’s that you’re so unattractive that they couldn’t even bear to receive a message from you.  It brings the feeling that I’m intrinsically unattractive; that, somehow, ethnic minorities are less attractive than caucasians.’

Given that depth of feeling, you might think that ‘no Asians’ is a pretty clear-cut case of racist or hate speech. Think again: legally, only statements that are threatening, insulting or abusive, or likely to stir up racial hatred, are actually considered racist – and in the case of personal profiles, that’s hard to prove.  After all, there’s a big gap between someone who’s ignorant, and someone who’s genuinely hateful.

It’s never been easier to find sex, dates and relationships; some might even claim that Gaydar and Grindr have made life better for gay people.

Still, Ramesh wonders whether some people who use the ‘no Asians’ line actually do hold deeper hostile sentiments. ‘Most of those profiles include clumsy phrases like “no offence” or “I’m not racist”, trying to ward off the criticism they know they’ll get for saying something that’s unpalatable. I think they do know it’s quite an unpleasant thing to say. Whether that connects with whether they’re actually racist, I don’t know.’

One man thinks it’s a bit clearer than that.  Will, 28, an IT consultant from Crewe, recently fell out with a friend when he spotted ‘no Asians (sorry, you just don’t do it for me)’ in his Gaydar profile. ‘I challenged him about it,’ he recalls, ‘and he came out with all this really vile stuff about ethnic minorities, saying they’re dirty. It was making my insides boil.

‘In the past we’d been chatting about guys on Gaydar, and if I said I found a particular guy attractive who happened to be Asian or black, he’d always say he didn’t. I’d never really thought much about it – I just thought he genuinely didn’t find those individuals attractive.  When he started coming out with this utter crap, I was actually shaking and feeling angry about it. I think it feels worse because I’ve been close to him for years.’

Hiding behind anonymity?

That’s not to say that every guy who types ‘no Asians’ is a likely member of the BNP, but it does seem obvious that some people use bland statements and excuses to mask genuinely offensive sentiments. Will thinks he knows why this fairly modern form of prejudice is so easy to come by. ‘We seem to be living in an age of online profiles where people feel they can just say “I’m not in to black guys” or “I don’t do Asians”, when they might actually find someone from those backgrounds attractive. I view the whole thing really differently now; when people say that sort of thing I can’t shrug it off – I start to wonder why. It’s totally changed me.’

Ramesh agrees. ‘On the internet, communication isn’t face-to-face, and that makes it a lot easier to say something that’s hurtful. On the scene in general, there’s a culture that makes it okay to say “I’m looking for this, I’m not looking for that.”  That sort of turns people into tick boxes.  I think that makes people less aware of the impact of those views.’  He suggests that people could prevent offence by expressing themselves differently. ‘I can’t say that everyone has to find me attractive, but they could put things positively. Phrase it as a preference for something, rather than an exclusion of something else. It’s nicer to read a preference for something than something negative about me, but I also think that’s actually more realistic.’

With his background in psychology, Ramesh also has a theory that could explain why hurtful statements are seen by those who make them as banal and unremarkable. ‘There’s a phenomenon called confirmation bias,’ he explains. ‘If you label something in a particular way, you shape your experience of it.  If you have a stereotype in your mind about camp gay men, for example, you’re more likely to remember meeting camp guys, and every time you met a “straight-acting” gay guy you’re likely to forget about him.

On the internet, communication isn’t face-to-face, and that makes it a lot easier to say something that’s hurtful.

‘The same thing applies here; people tell themselves they won’t find non-white people attractive, and so they don’t find them attractive.  Their profile then excludes non-white people from contacting them, so they’re less likely to encounter an attractive non-white person.’

What can be done about that? ‘If the words people put on their profile help them to maintain racist views, then sites like Gaydar should think about making it part of their policy that it’s not okay, and that people like me can complain to them about those profiles.’

So So Gay put that suggestion to Gaydar and Grindr. A spokesman from Grindr responded quickly: ‘Grindr’s profile guidelines prohibit text that incites racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind. Any user that is uncomfortable with a profile they see can send an email to our review team and we will take steps to remove any offensive language if needed.’

Simon Johnson, Gaydar’s Product Manager, says that Gaydar takes racism very seriously. ‘Gaydar has been providing a safe place for men to meet for over ten years, each with their own likes, types and dislikes. We investigate all complaints regarding racism, discrimination and anti-social behaviour, and Gaydar’s customer service team is trained to deal with a wide range of member enquiries and complaints.

‘Sadly, there will always be individuals across all dating and social networking sites who feel they can make comments and statements that are offensive and unwelcome. We operate a three strike rule whereby we will reach out to members who break our terms and conditions; we find discussing issues one-to-one with our members helps them to understand that anti-social behaviour benefits nobody and is unwelcome on Gaydar. We will, however, suspend somebody from Gaydar if our investigations and their personal history lead us to believe it wouldn’t be fair on other members if they continued their membership.’

While some people might be tempted to challenge allegedly racist comments directly, Johnson adds that Gaydar would prefer to deal with those situations itself. ‘We would always recommend that members tell us if they are unhappy with something or somebody on Gaydar, rather than trying to deal with the situation themselves. We want to ensure that Gaydar continues to be a safe and secure environment for gay men to chat and meet. If a member would like to make a complaint our customer service team will look into specific cases and advise on next steps including, when appropriate, reporting to the police.’

The answer seems clear: if you don’t like it, report it. Only by dealing with those views head-on can gay people challenge discrimination within the community. Ramesh, though, thinks that there’s yet more that needs to be done before gay men from ethnic minorities can feel safe from disdain.

‘I think it’s important to try to increase people’s exposure to gay non-white people,’ he says. ‘I think it’s important for the media in general, and particularly the gay media, to increase representations of attractive non-white gay people.’ Perhaps the battle against sexual racism starts not on those ubiquitous and liberating gay dating sites, but on something even more powerful and ever-present: the warm and influential glow of the TV screen.

So So Gay contacted several men on Gaydar whose profiles contain statements like ‘no non-whites’; despite a promise of anonymity, none of them was willing to talk to us to give his point of view.

Gaydar and Grindr both stress that they take racism very seriously. If you wish to complain about allegedly racist comments, you should contact review@grindr.com or support@gaydar.net – both addresses are checked every day of the week.



About the Author

Andy Wasley
Andy Wasley is So So Gay's Executive Editor, and was its Editor-in-Chief from January to November 2011. He is an avid culture vulture, gin-loving wino, injury-prone rugby player, political obsessive and charming geek. He writes for a number of publications, some too boring to mention and often under other people's names. Grr. You can read his inane outpourings on Twitter @andywasley




 
 

 
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I am black myself. There are black men I dont fancy, there are white men I don't fancy and there are Asian men I don't fancy and opposite too.I think what some say is  a "preference" is not just a preference but pure bigotry. A taste that exclused certain "races" is developped during the early stages of life and is therefor learned. Often enough it is a product of sheer peer-pressure aswell. Often white  people stare at white people who openly associate themselves with blacks. I have seen it. The stares are those of disapproval as if to say: what is wrong with YOU? and they are being socially sanctioned for it. I have experienced this by white guys that are ok meeting me anywhere but in public. The other way around doesnt happen. Excluding people on the basis of their race is always racism because it has to do with a racist stance against a specific racial group.I feel Henry about that exotification-remark however. That is true. You have to also take into account that a white man approaching a black man is usually exclusively interested in black men which means the only thing that is important for him is, that the other one is black often assuming or expecting a very large penis, which means he doesnt like him as an individual and is in fact dehumanizing.Even white people that discuss this and say that they are open to everyone and state they will not be influenced by the social sanction they might have to face associating themselves with anything other than whites change their mind afterwards when they are factually confronted with it despite the warnings.

 

I have a hard time getting on board with this. It's my body. I don't "owe" sex to anyone else in my community. Nobody, no matter their color or gender, is entitled to have sex with me. If I personally do not seek white men for sex or dating, it has nothing to do with "sexual racism" and everything to do with cultural affirmation and familiarity. I like what I like, and should not be shamed into seeking something else anymore than I should be shamed into sleeping with women. Besides, when you do date outside your race, then you get all that "exotification/fetish" grief from the other half of the PC crowd these days. Can't win for losing...

There are people who are "no whites"...
There are also those that you can't tell what you are if you don't say... I'm mixed race myself, and I pass for a LOT of things...

Is it any worse than saying no fatties?

Not everybody has the same likes and dislikes as others. If behind the "no a...." there is a more hatred then i'd be worried.

I think this is a very important point. At the end of the day no one expects everyone to be attracted to everybody else but people can't be treated with less dignity if you don't find them attractive. Seeing profiles where people dismiss potential partners out of hand due to various physical and cultural characteristics makes me very uncomfortable. From my point of view, the world is sufficiently difficult and crappy to deal with without being so ungrateful as to shut out a whole group of people who might want to share your company and pleasure before you even get to know them.

I kind of have the problem in reverse, I want to meet people from all over the whole world and actually, I've always found that gd is very good for that! :-)

As someone who is mixed race, I have been at the receiving end of statements like those above - and they hurt. While I believe someone should be allowed to think, say and write things that are clearly bigoted in many other people's eyes, I have never really understood the logic behind it - it just makes them look really ugly and unapproachable to everyone, regardless of race or skin colour. If someone approaches you and you don't fancy them, you can just tell them (preferably politely), surely?

I know this is potentially opening up a can of worms, but let me put it out there: I find there is tacit racism in large sections of the gay scene.

I think it is at worst racist and at best a very horribly use of language that makes someone clearly unwelcome based on an absolutely unchangeable part of their identity. Actually, that IS racism.

The question is: even if it's a preference, why must it be said? If one is contacted by someone one doesn;t find attractive, then one either ignores or says "no thank you". Why make it about their race? It's also very self-limiting for the person who writes it, boxing them off from the possibility of that one exception to the rule.

Is it more the environment than the person that causes the use of the terminology in a narrow measure that other people then misunderstand.

Gaydar messages are, sadly, dominated by people who are not interested in friendship or long term relationships, but sating an immediate biological urge.

In such a situation, I don't think it is actually any worse to say "no asians", than it is to say "no chest hair" or "no fatties" or "no skinnies" etc etc etc.

However, when it comes to friendships, then the situation is totally different - and it would be deplorable to say you wouldn't even want to be friends with someone simply based on their ethnic background.

But, is gaydar really the best place for such a distinction?

It's hard enough to find people there who can string a coherent sentence together, let alone deal with the nuances of physical attraction versus social friendship.

The fact that such services are driven largely by database entries than social interaction only heightens the situation where people list their ideal person in a series of checkboxes - so should we be surprised when people are asked about a preference for physical attraction, they are going to make a statement about it?